I'm not sure if this has been already discussed. I also know that you need a solid proof to include someone as a voice actor of a specific character, so this may be pointless, but nonetheless I decided to bring this up, just in case.
I've been watching Berleezy's DR gameplay and when I reached the part where Jin Kirigiri talks to the students in the recordings, I immediatelly recognized his voice from somewhere. Specifically, I recognized him as Eric from Zero Time Dilemma. The voice is exactly the same. So I checked who voiced Eric on Zero Escape's wiki - it's Keith Silverstein. The wiki provided a link to his Wikipedia page, which I checked and found out as a result that he also voiced Mondo (I can't believe I haven't realized until now). I then saw him listed as Mondo's VA on the wiki as well. So yeah, it'd make sense they'd use someone already from the cast to voice a minor character who only has a few lines.
Without a doubt Jin Kirigiri's English game VA is Keith Silverstein. However, because all I can offer is comparing his voice to Eric's (and Mondo's, but his tone is a bit different, unlike Eric's), I know this may not be enough, so I understand if it doesn't warrant him being listed as Jin's VA on the wiki. Let me know what's the admins' take on this and if he can be added as Jin's VA or not.
Unfortunately as you say, it's not enough - it needs to be first hand information verified by the person themself or someone closely attached to the series.
Around V3 in particular we saw how much speculation there was around VAs that were totally incorrect or mixed up before we had official word, so it's become a blanket policy that all VA claims need to be properly verifiable rather than "this sounds like x!". It not only protects the legitimacy of the Wiki's list but also protects VAs which may not want to be attached to the series by name for whatever reason. Of course that's not the case for Keith in particular, but its among the reasons for this policy. I understand that it can be frustrating (it is for us, too) but we feel it's the best way to handle it since we're considered an important resource in that regard.
Unfortunately, I doubt Keith will ever recall such a minor role, as evidenced by him only mentioning Mondo in that link that confirmed him as his VA. I guess this will remain a nice trivia to know for yourself.
In the Spike Chunsoft game, Kenka Banchou Bros, when he appears with Mondo, Daiya he is given the title of 'Super High School Level Souchou' (which, from what I looked up, usually translates to 'President' or 'Secretary-General'. Would it it be possible for this to be added to the page, even under something like the trivia section.
As long as it's for projects, editors are allowed more than one sandbox, within reason of course. :) So you can have another! You can name it /sandbox2 or something like /monokumagyakushu or a variation of it, if you only plan to use that sandbox for that one page.
After months of research and work along side jinjojess we have come to the conclusion that DR:T is in fact canon.
Firstly, interviews and tweets actually reveal that Kodaka did help out with the creation of DR:T and even gave Yuya Sato the plot of DR3 before it was released.
The "plot" is mostly set after DR0, but within the same timeskip in DR3 before the 77th graduation.
Explaining some of the "plot holes" or whatever TV tropes describes them as include that, throughout the series, Shinobu Togami's (or in this case i should really say The Kudan's) mechanical eye, borges has been feeding her misinformation on purpose under an experiment by hopes peak academy.
First of all, to fully understand what i mean, lets tlak about the flashback in volume 2. It is split into 2 chapters, Normal Days, and Unreality. The Normal Days section is true, however the unreality days is false. This information is fed through borges, but is actually from kazuya's perspective becasue he also has borges.
The problem is both the real shinobu and real kazuya died in the mansion fire. the two Borges units wiped the personalities of The Kudan (who just has a slightly better clairvoyance ability than hagakure) and literrally just some random nameless person to act out the roles of shinobu and kazuya. This is also why shinobu is never seen in DR3 because she is not really a hopes peak student.
False information given includes: The despair novel, the Hasegawa Research Institue, anything to do with hokkaido (this was just a clever writing trick where everything was set in prague but bringing up hokkaido alot made it seem like it was set there, so the thing how suzuhiko drove to prague makes more sense), and pretty much anything else related to the kagami family saga, alongside more stuff.
Borges also filtered information in real time to the brain, such as if soemone says a word EG "Minoru Oe", it would appear in shinobu and Kazuyas mind as "Suzuhiko Otsuki". The stuff with the kazuya lightsaber thing didnt happen. Suzuhiko wasnt actually a real togami and so on. This is also why none of the other main charcters appear to react much to any fake personalities such as sana and kana, everyone saw them as ibuki and gundham fro mthe start except shinobu.
in the end the world health organisation steps in and solves the situation through large amounts of drugs which help lessen the memory effects, similar to yasuke's devices in dr0. they go back to school before the schools shelter plan begins. there is even a cameo by ryota mitarai.
also before saying its a retcon, most of this was heavily forshadowed way back even bfore dr3 and v3 came out (actually the author didnt even know anything about V3 til after he finished publishing DRT3)
Just becasue the fandom thinks of soemthing (that they havent even finished reading) as non canon, doesnt make it actually non canon. The only reason anyone would cosnider that is possibly the "Kodaka's reccomended list to watch DR3" which doesnt include a lot of the short stories which dont have a role in DR3.
If you want to discuss anymore so i can get that dumb non canon tag removed i would be very greatful, then i can actually properly work on adding all the pages i need to.
If you really want to still have a warning i would replace it with soemthing like "Has info from DR:T so Borges' info might vontain Unreality" or soemthing like that.
Regardless of all of this, Kodaka also really loves DR:T.
ALso here is something i wrote on the talk page ages ago as well.
As of Volume 3, i can safely say that everything that ElsaFrozen just pointed out is now incorrect, as it is established that a lot of things that "happened" were actually just happening in a twisted "Real Fiction-esque" program, written by an AI. The despair novel was never real, the supernatural elements were also a delusion (this is all foreshadowed mind you so dont think of it as a cop out). ALso DRT happens after DR0, and many of DR0's charcters aren't shown in DR3 as well. As for now i know that you will need for the volume 3 summeries by JinJoJess to come out to back up my claims, and also the fact that NO WHERE does it officially say that DRT, alongside of many of the other spinoffs (excluding DRIF which is a Canon AU) are specifically Non- Canon. DRT also has deep routes within DRK and Kirigiri Sou, which is written by another different author, as they all like to help eachother out when writing. They both reference eachother as well at points, and if Ultra Despair Girls points out that DRK is infact Canon as well, then that also affirms DRT within canon. ANd now for my full counters: The Official Timeline is what Kodaka deemed necessary for the viewing of DR3, not a precise and full detailed timeline. DRT Literrally says that Sagishi went "back to impersonating Togami", meaning that he was not impersonating him previously. and as we know, he was impersonating mitarai and then revealed himself to his classmates (before DR0 and DRT). The Despair Novel in DRT (apart from ulitmatly turning out to not even be real) was only stated to have ever been circulated around other countries, and not in japan, where another method is used in japan (which yo ucan assume to be the video, and now that we know the despair novel wasnt real we can say for sure it was all the videos doing). Shinobu says she is a classmate of Sonia and Souda, becasue she is. They are all part of the 77th class, which is split into 2 known classes (possibly more with the amount of blue mian course students we see). Byakuya doesnt bring up Shinobu becasue (spoiler alert) Shinobu was used in a similar experiemnt that izuru was used in by hopes peak (which is the Story Telling AI simulation, known as "The Bible Plan". She was erased from the memories of everyone that knew her as it would be more convienient to the testing that way. Byakuya wasnt lying during his free time events. he said it was a battle between 15 togami siblings, which is the truth, However there were also more siblings who did not meet the cut for the heir selction process. Many other people knew about what happened on the island due to underground information dealings, so its not aurprising if Sagishi knows more then he should. Infact if he shouldnt know about it , why does he know about it in the first place. Byakuya is not a liar, he may want to cover things up in his biography, but stretching the truth isn't lying. i don't believe he was acting in the final trial either. even in DRT he holds the togami name in an extremly high regard. Learning that all his family has been wiped out would still shock anyone. Also to be fair UDG has ghosts and Kirigiri Sou/DR1 have Aliens, while DRT makes it clear inthe third volume that the supernatural stuff was part of the story telling AI's Simulated writings. Also kodaka really liked DRT. You might not have but ultimatly its his universe to pick and choose whats going on. ALso while i am here i would like to point out that on TV Tropes it tlaks about how the books have intermissions that the author flaunts his Ego around in, and this is actually just straight up false. those intermission are actually in charcter of a certain somebody but i dont wanna spoil that here. If you have any other questions, hit me up.TheGameSurgery (talk) 07:13, November 25, 2018 (UTC)
Because of the length of this wall post, I'm gonna go step by step to answer all of your questions.
To preface, however, I do take offense over your implication I or my staff would put something on the wiki simply because it's the "fandom thinks of something". We take great care in maintaining the wiki to be a database of sourced, correct information, and do our best to debunk long-held rumors within in the fandom. An example of this can be seen in Junko Enoshima/Image Gallery where we have sourced claims and translations regarding the "black Junko beta", who isn't even Junko at all. We're an encyclopaedia, not a "fandom majority opinion wins", please remember that.
This leads me to why it's not considered canon on the wiki. It's not because of "plot holes" or retcons:
The official timeline does not list Danganronpa: Togami (will be shortening to DRT onward) on it. I assume that's what you mean by "Kodaka's recommended list to watch DR3" ? That's not a "list". It's called the "Hope's Peak Series Timeline", ergo what is listed on here is de facto canon. Or maybe more easier to get across, this timeline is the "top layer" of canon.
The next reason is DRT is the only piece of spin-off material to either not be referenced in canon material, or have events referenced in canon material. Case in point: Danganronpa Kirigiri is made canon (despite not being on the timeline) because it was mentioned in Danganronpa Another Episode, even going as far as to get a piece of concept art in the accompanying game art book. It also does not conflict with the "top layer" of canon considering it takes place in the past, and only includes two/three canon characters.
The final reason is there is no "Word of God" for DRT within the canon. Worst Day is the example for this, as while it's not on the timeline, it IS written by Kodaka himself. It also makes reference to events that happen within Danganronpa 3 which were not within canon prior, such as Nagito's "event" we later find out about in DR3.
For why I removed the chapters:
As I said in the edit summary, uncredited fan-translations.
However it's also we don't all fan-translations of things such as titles, names of material like novels and games, and opt for the romaji-transieration of Japanese-only material.
Some other tidbits I couldn't fit into the main parts of my reply, mostly establishing what is deemed canon on the wiki:
DR:IF isn't canon. When we get to character page revamps that the story heavily involves, it will not be used within any history of any character it involves. Since that was brought up I felt I needed to let you know the wiki's stance on it.
Audio Dramas that are not simply retellings of Free Time Events, are considered canon if they do not interfere with the canon timeline. This is however, subject to change if fan-translations come out. Currently I know of none.
Ultra Despair Hagakure also falls into the above reason. ^ As far as I understand, it does not effect the canon timeline.
Kirigiri Sou isn't canon. Based on what I know of it, it's simply a "gag" story. Since it also has multiple endings, it's canon is questionable. This is also subject to change.
Sorry if this isn't the answer you were looking for, but this is our stance on the matter, and hopefully explaining it helped you see why we took such a stance. "Non-canon" isn't meant to be some sort of black mark on the series, but simply a way to make sure we have the utmost canon material on the wiki on the right pages.
Truly I hope the series being it's own canon doesn't effect your contributions to the wiki. Clearly you're passionate about this series, and I for one would welcome any help on expanding these pages, including all novel pages, since they've been neglected for so long.
I see that we probably will not see eye to eye on the topic so i will not bother dragging this out further until the full translation is out.
I will however say that there is a canon route to kirigiri sou which is part of the offical DRK series of events.
Also i apologise if it seems i came across as agressive. i just dislike that every seems to shove the spin offs to the side without giving them a chance and culling it.
In that case my next mission will be to officially make kodaka Word of God DRT for you, then the issue of if it is truly "canon or not" will be properly solved.
Also given the fact the story is actually self contained and wraps up it makes more sense to not mention it within other media, ands seeing that the series concluded AFTER dr3 and V3 itd be kinda hard to do that unless more hopes peak saga stuff comes out.
Anyway i'll do the pages and summaries when i feel like any current issues have died down.
That tidbit will likely be removed when we're able to review that page + other novel pages. That won't be for awhile because the staff have real lives and other wiki-related projects in the works.
I can modify the tophat to reflect a more dubious canon understanding of Danganronpa Togami, however the tophat will remain on every single page from the novel, and content from the series will still not be allowed on HPA-canon character pages unless it's placed exclusively under "Alternate Fates". Separate pages will still need to be created for canon characters that appear in DRT as well, such as Byakuya Togami (Danganronpa Togami).
When the staff get to those pages, they will be reviewed and discussed between ourselves how to label them.
At the moment only DRIF is considered strictly non-canon, but since it's only a short story it doesn't need a tophat like DRT has since it's only contained onto one page and will be put under "Alternate Fates" when we get to more character page revamps.
Ah, my apologies. I didn't notice. I just saw you had added the English fanslation to one part of the lyrics, but not all the parts. So I had to copy/paste an earlier edit and add in the fanslation. If you'd like to fix the typos from before again, please do so. Again sorry for undoing your work!