Talk:Nagito Komaeda

Evil Man
I was just watching someone play the 3rd trial of Super Dangan Ronpa 2 because I can't play the game because I need a play station, So Kamoeda tries to make people think Hinata is the culprit BUT then he sais he can't be the culprit when Hinata calls him on it! He gave me a TWITCH!--hi (talk) 21:00, March 22, 2014 (UTC)

Borderline insane?
I'm not sure who edit locked like, every page, but the bit about Komaeda being "borderline insane" really needs to go. His entire "breakdown" in the first trial was staged to garner a reaction from everyone; he's not actually insane. Minamemeoto (talk) 23:25, July 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * I am not sure if this is referring to the lymphoma, but Nagito definitely reveals later that he lied about the information he fed to Hinata. It's left unclear whether that's all of the information or just some of it. 162.197.57.0 17:33, December 18, 2014 (UTC)

Hello, I am just wondering if I should add The Servent to Komaeda? I mean, we don't exactly know if he is techinically 'Komaeda', but I was just wondering. Please respond! .u. CopperPuru27 (talk) 20:56, August 26, 2014 (UTC)

Hi!
I was wondering. The page says he is like 175 cm but than he would be shorter than Hajime ? I thought he was 180 cm, Just 1 cm more than Hajime. -- a wikia contributor

NISA decided to make all character shorter, including Komaeda. Well, I think they also make Hinata shorter. You can help us to search Hinata's english localization height.

Hope-inducing (talk) 14:24, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

Aww, I think they shrunk Hajime to 5'8'' because that is what the character profile is saying. ''

Should be equal to 173 cm right?

Weight : 147 lbs, so that isn't a significant change.

Chest : 36 in (which i still don't get at all hahaha)

-- a wikia contributor

I think NISA make all character shorter to make them like, "a normal new high school students". Thanks for the info, added to the page.

Hope-inducing (talk) 10:53, February 10, 2015 (UTC)

Why is this locked?
Why locked? I wanted to add something. YayPepsi (talk) 15:06, October 1, 2016 (UTC)

Lymphoma, and Frontotemporal Dementia?
A major portion of this article describes Nagito being ill in great detail. However, I cannot seem to find any canon mentions of these things outside of his final Hope Fragment, where he says that he just lied about all of it.

How should we be treating this information? Is there canon evidence for it elsewhere?

NovaCharmQuark (talk) 23:43, October 6, 2016 (UTC)

Well it says it in his transscipt in side:despair.

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Are you talking about the file Kizakura is holding up near the end of Despair Episode 4? NovaCharmQuark (talk) 00:25, October 7, 2016 (UTC)

Pretty sure there was a scene in his manga implying it. Also, his school profile confirms that he was telling the truth about everything else and overall it has been underlined that he's a honest person (Despair Disease + he mentions in additional dialogue in chapter 1 that he always means what he says + his voice actor also said this and she's very much involved with the character). It's also implied in the game and 100% confirmed in the profiles that he is very sickly. Also, he fits many of the symptoms (it may not be 100% accurate portrayal, but that's Danganronpa - just look at Toko and Genocider). I also don't see the point of having a character lie like that (especially such detailed and complex lies) during their free-time events, which are meant to show genuine and "true" side of the characters they don't normally show as well as explain their backstories. Also, if you pay attention to the dialogue, Nagito pulls the claim that it was all lies out of nowhere during his most vulnerable and honest moment, implying that he was telling the truth, regretted it and quickly backed off. Starly545 (talk) 00:37, October 7, 2016 (UTC)

Ah, I guess that makes sense, him lying about lying. It would also line up with his Island Mode ending, changing his answer at the last second after opening up to Hajime. I'm not the best at reading subtext, I admit. But I have to ask, where is it confirmed in his profiles? I can't read the one in the anime, and I thought the games just described him as being unusually pale, rather than specifically sick. I just thought he was a pale dork. I do agree he definitely has some sort of frontotemporal disorder, though, but that doesn't guarantee early onset dimentia, he could just be autistic. Also, I feel like they do say outright that he's honest a lot, but he doesn't really show it. He lies comfortably quite a lot on DR2.

Is that manga ''Komaeda Nagito no Kouun to Kibou to Zetsubou? ''I haven't actually read it, I'll be sure to do that. NovaCharmQuark (talk) 01:06, October 7, 2016 (UTC)

Oh, and thanks so much for your help. Nagito's page has gotten overwhelming and difficult to read due to it's length. I feel like it needs to be cleaned up, reorganized and have subheaders added to the Personality section, but I know unlocking it would just make it messier. NovaCharmQuark (talk) 01:24, October 7, 2016 (UTC)

That anime's school profile describes his parents' deaths, the same way he did in his free-time events. His character profile from art book mentions his "pallid skin of the diseaded" and describe how his hair color looks like it belongs to a corpse. He would probably look quite different if he was healthy. Starly545 (talk) 01:27, October 7, 2016 (UTC)

I always thought the parents dying in a plane crash thing was real, because he doesn't say he lied immediately after. NovaCharmQuark (talk) 01:35, October 7, 2016 (UTC)

Frontotemporal Dementia DOES NOT commonly affect younger people, and for someone under the age of 30 to have is is exceedingly rare. When these references say "at a younger age", they specify "Between 40 and 75" right after, NOT teenage years. Also, I still have not seen any true evidence that Nagito wasn't lying about it. I read the first few chapters of the manga, and while he confirms his parents' deaths (which I never said was a lie, and is from a completely different free time event), he never mentions leukemia or frontotemporal dementia. I understand that he IS sick, but I am not convinced it is confirmed cannon to be leukemia or frontotemporal dementia. Are these things mentioned anywhere else at all? I don't understand what about that scene implies anything. I spent literally all day researching and working on this, so I hope you understand if I'm a bit on edge. NovaCharmQuark (talk) 03:47, October 12, 2016 (UTC)

I got access to the DSM V to double check my research. It's pretty clear to me that Toko's Dissociative Identity Disorder, while exceedingly rare and severe, is notably accurate, especially in the ways she describes it in Ultra Despair Girls. She fits the DMS diagnostic criteria very well.

For Nagito, so you can make your own conclusion, I've attatched the first diagnostic criteria for frontotemporal dementia, which is required for diagnosis:

A. Evidence of modest cognitive decline from a previous level of performance in one or more cognitive domains (complex attention, executive function, learning and memory, language, perceptual-motor, or social cognition) based on:

And here is an excerpt from the Development section:
 * 1) Concern of the individual, a knowledgeable informant, or the clinician that there has been a mild decline in cognitive function; and
 * 2) A modest impairment in cognitive performance, preferably documented by standardized neuropsychological testing or, in its absence, another quantified clinical assessment

Individuals with major or mild frontotemporal NCD commonly present in the sixth decade of life, although the age at onset varies from the third to the ninth decades (  Rabinovici and Miller 2010  ) . ''The disease is gradually progressive, with median survival being 6–11 years after symptom onset and 3–4 years after diagnosis. Survival is shorter and decline is faster in major or mild frontotemporal NCD than in typical Alzheimer’s disease.''

The admins have stated several times that they want to be strict about not having speculation in this wiki. While I understand your evidence for it, but vague implications are tentative enough to be considered speculation. It may be a good idea to just move that paragraph to the Trivia section. NovaCharmQuark (talk) 19:25, October 12, 2016 (UTC)



Vandalism
This is starting to get annoying. Can we either block the user who keeps vandalizing the page or just lock it? This problem needs to get nipped in the bud before it becomes worse. -- Signed by, ~ Sir Neptune (talk ) ~ http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/fireemblem/images/3/32/FE14_Sakura_Priestess_Map_Sprite.gif/revision/latest?cb=20151024033748 02:36, November 5, 2016 (UTC)

Can i get a official source on Nagito Been LGBT ? someone added it but i can no find the quote from Kodaka or anyone that work in the games.

SDR2.5 Tab
Do we even need a SDR2.5 tab? I think it's okay to put it in the original page. Well, that's only my thought but if the admins disagree with me at least tell me the reason! トラファルガー (talk) 13:07, January 24, 2017 (UTC)

Well, me and Monollama were discussing it. Technically the Danganronpa 2.5 OVA is canon, as it is set within the canon timeline, but it takes place primarily in the Neo World Program. These characters aren't necessarily the same as their normal counterparts, and I thought they deserve their own pages - at least, those that had any major role in the OVA. Most of the characters in the OVA are extremely different from their normal counterparts, so they should be classified as different characters as opposed to getting a single section on a page. Mirai Moon  13:36, January 24, 2017 (UTC)
 * Monollama rephrased this pretty perfectly. They're like Miaya as a person and as a robot. They're the same characters... but not. Mirai Moon   13:42, January 24, 2017 (UTC)

Mentioned in Trigger Happy 1
I just found out while playing Danganronpa 1 again, that Nagito is allready mentioned by Celest during the game...

While spending free time with her the second time, she tells you about some russian roulette majong she played with: an old man and...a silver-haired boy, who is called to have the devils own luck...could that be Nagito, or is it just my Imagination?

Syler1998 (talk) 07:03, April 11, 2017 (UTC)


 * It is actually a reference to the manga series . Considering most, if not all of her FTEs are gambling manga series references, it's safe to assume this one is as well and not to Komaeda. Monollama (talk) 07:11, April 11, 2017 (UTC)